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RichieBoy
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Post The Dark Knight Rises - just the film - spoilers likely
on: July 22, 2012, 07:28
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Would love to hear from fellow PS Nationeers about what they thought of the culmination of Christopher Nolan's epic trilogy.

I watched it yesterday morning and it has barely left my brain since then. I thought it was a brilliant rounding off of the trilogy which at one point had me in tears.

What it does so well is bring the story back to how it started in Begins, and the contrast with TDK is startling, which I think is what is disappointing many people, especially those looking for something as startling at Heath Ledger's Joker.

That, in my opinion, is an unfair expectation, especially as Bane is essentially the exact opposite of The Joker; A fundamentalist acting on what he believes, rather than an anarchist who believes in nothing, A man whose followers do so out of faith in his goals, rather than greed or lust for money and power, A loyal man acting out of love rather than a bitter loner manipulating others just for shits and giggles.

I can't fault a single member of the cast, and if you have yet to see a film at an IMAX theater then do try and see this in the format, it's stunning.

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on: July 22, 2012, 19:22
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I went to see TDKR as an IMAX matinee earlier today, and absolutely LOVED it. This film stayed true to the standard Nolan set with BB and TDK -- excellent story, acting and camerawork, not-too-flashy special effects, just awesome all around.

RichieBoy is right about Bane being just as compelling as The Joker -- a "Man of Order", who wants to restore Balance, can be just as dangerous and deadly as a "Man of Chaos", who wants to incite Anarchy.

And, of course, we even had a cameo from the "Man of Fear" from the first film... as a JUDGE, no less!

I fully intend to see it again at least once more.

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on: July 26, 2012, 15:18
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I was blown away. I hope as many folks as possible watch Batman Begins beforehand. I've heard a number of negative points since seeing it and not one of them has rung true to me. Catwoman and Robin were both handled perfectly. While things like Avengers and Spidey are fun, I don't really think it's fair to even list them as the same type of film.

From the broken back to the feeling of utter hopelessness the city conveyed months into the siege, everything just clicked with me. I even thought Bane's voice was fucking awesome. All the callbacks to the first film, from the well/prison to the Bruce Wayne reveal to Gordon, fuck this movie was goddamn good. True and satisfying closure from anything Batman-related is just such a rare and unique thing that it makes me wish they'd never touch the character again. Oh well, the countdown-til-suck for the Justice League film has begun.

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on: July 28, 2012, 09:57
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I enjoyed the film and can't wait to see it again. I can kind of see why a few people didn't like it but most of the reasons are misguided. I think all the the actors did a very good job and Bane's voice was fine.

I would of liked one major change to the film, a higher age rating. I wanted to see Bane doing more damage and being more violent, Tom Hardy was in his perfect role but sadly we never got to see it.

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on: July 29, 2012, 22:05
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I loved the movie! I have told many people it is better than the Dark Knight. The writers had a huge discussion about it and the consensus is we loved it! I will say that the trilogy as a whole was unbelievable. Sure there are small issues, NO FREAKING VENOM WAS USED BY BANE (Huge letdown as I wanted him to get huge), but the fact that Nolan pulled off a realistic take on Batman is a testament to him. I loved every second... Oh ya and Rocksteady, since nolan finished his trilogy, you have to finsih yours!

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on: July 30, 2012, 11:01
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Thought it was an excellent movie, very fitting finish to the trilogy. There where a few issues that bothered me, mostly related to the pacing of the move. When he climbs out of the well for example, no money, no phone, no nothing. Looks to be clearly in another country, Gotham is under military lockdown, yet a couple of scenes later he strolls up behind Catwoman in his own clothes. How the hell!?

The scene with the ice as well, why can Batman just stroll over the ice willy-nilly? I thought Bane was taken out a little to suddendly and unceremoniously, I'd have liked to have seen Bane go down with a bit more drama. I know Batman wouldn't have killed him, although i'd could have worked if he did in the way that he intends to stop being Batman by the end.

The exposition annoyed me when Catwoman is asking that guy for the clean slate and he goes, "You want the clean slate? The program that, when used, will wipe your slate clean? Erase all trace or your criminal record? Effectively giving you a clean slate to start over again?" The Nolan's are much better writers than that! I can figure out what 'clean slate' means, you don't have to spell it out so blatantly!

They're really just small things though, when you go in expecting so much I think your prone to being more aware of smaller issues. The film was just awesome, some of the dialogue was great, "You merely adopted the darkness, I was born in it". It was a very frustrating place to leave it, and leaves it very easily open for a sequel. Robin becomes Gotham's protector, get's in way over his head, Batman returns to help him out. I'm not sure I'd really want another movie in Nolans universe now, I mean of course I would, but for fear of ruining such a fantastic trilogy, I kinda wouldn't. I just hope the studio can't carry on without Nolan, it'd be so easy to carry on from where it left off (Having said that Robin certainly wouldn't have Waynes money so perhaps not?). Whilst the studio have the rights and not Nolan, I wouldn't be suprised if he'd worked out something in his contract with them that they couldnt carry on his story. Who knows?

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on: August 5, 2012, 07:37
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Re. Bane's lack of venom: This is Nolan's Batman universe, not the comic books, and while Nolan has made huge tips of the hat towards the comics his is a very different place and should be treated completely seperately IMHO, the fact that it has no 'superheroes/villains' in the traditional 'superhuman' sense is what makes it so engaging.

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on: August 9, 2012, 14:42
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I was a little bothered by some of the stuff with the League of Shadows, but I loved the movie. A few things that bothered me were the Clean Slate thing listed above, Batman's fake death (why did he have that talk with Selena if he planned on running off with her?) and the officer being named Robin....I misheard his name as Drake, so I was all "OH SNAP THAT'S TIM DRAKE" right when he was introduced and was let down. That was a little too cheesy for me, but it's all good

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